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Comment: "The Last Blow to Human Hegemony"

Two great comments on "Having Your Own Ethics is Lonely." First is by Roy, thought-provoking, and also, I laughed a lot at how his final sentence wraps it all up:

Hello. Your comment to Stefanie about creating your own set of values and ethic being lonely, look pretty much like the concept of the Ubermensch from Nietzsche. So I'll say that anyone following this path is on the right path to the next level of human development. And I'll go farther on this. I think that Nietzche closed the loop on human nature. Copernicus discovered that we were not the center of the world which was a blow to human hegemony. Then came Darwin stating that human was not special and we are just another can of animal. This was a second blow on human hegemony. Then came Freud stating that human is not even the master of his thoughts and impulses. Which was yet just another blow to human hegemony. And to finalize it all. Here comes Nietzche stating that there is not a single system of ethics that bind us all. No human system and certainly not heavenly system of ethic stands. Which to me is the last blow on human hegemony.

Have a nice day.

Then Ryan replies -

I disagree somewhat with Roy's comment. Humans are special, what separates us from other animals is the ability to reason. Its true that we posess animal instincts like all creatures on this planet, and so by nature, man is corrupt. I believe there are ethics that bind all people, like the persute of being happy through the possession of freedom, wich requires discipline over ones own actions, wich requires some form of ethical standards. Just because you think it, does not mean you must do it. If you have no disapline, you become a slave to others, like too much debt for instance, you feel the shame of failure when the bill arrives. But do you work to solve it, or make it worse? The point is that we all fail some time or another, but its how you deal with your failures that can make you a good or bad person.

Trust Everyone, But Cut The Cards

Mistrusting people is a horrible way to live. It leads to getting lonely and isolated. It's hard enough to accomplish enterprising and creative works in the world, it's hard enough to raise a great family, it's hard enough to make a positive impact on the world around you and have things run ab it better. Trying to do so without trusting anyone you meet is no good.

On the other hand, highly trusting souls who look to do significant things frequently find they've misplaced that trust. A majority of people are well-meaning, but details get fudged, enthusiasm fades, memory is poor, interpretations are different, judgments get clouded, and external circumstances intervene.

Hence, the counsel of the humorist Finley Peter Dunne --

"Trust everyone, but cut the cards."

It's an entirely solid policy -- give everyone large degrees of trust and goodwill, but don't put them in a position where they'd be tempted or benefit from doing wrong. Don't hand off mission critical tasks to people who aren't vetted; don't bet on people if you can't afford to lose those bets and haven't gone to war with them before.

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