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Great Comment: "if the ends you’re pursuing can only be achieved by actions which violate your integrity, then you’re by definition pursuing the wrong ends."

Josh left this very smart comment on my newest reading list updates.

It's exactly how I feel, very smart stuff:

I had a similar reaction to Rules for Radicals when I started reading it a couple months ago. I got about a quarter of the way in and had to put it down because I found it so infuriating and distasteful. (I don’t normally have such a visceral reaction to reading things I disagree with, which is why I’ll be sure to pick it up again and finish it at some point.)

I think the reaction I had was because the way Alinsky works is the way the “bad guys” work (ruthlessly ends focussed), and what differentiates the “good guys” is that they refuse to act in ways that would violate their integrity, even when that means that they’ll fail to achieve their ends. I don’t think that means acting with integrity is always ineffective, but I suspect it might mean that the ends they have chosen are wrong in some fundamental way. That is, if the ends you’re pursuing can only be achieved by actions which violate your integrity, then you’re by definition pursuing the wrong ends.

I’d definitely be interested to hear more of your thoughts on it in a future post.

Machiavelli, Republics, Republican Troops, Kings and Emperors

I was asked for some book recommendations by a reader. His requests on general self-discipline and habit-forming stuff were easy enough to give recommendations on, but he also asked for some good jumping off material to learn about "democracy and other forms of government" - my reply follows -

On government... hmm... I've read a lot on the topic, but no one work stands out to me as must-read stuff. Usually what I do is put a historical era into Wikipedia, do a "wiki walk" for a while, and then google the most interesting people and events for other insights.

You might consider Machiavelli's "The Prince," which was well-read and well-admired by most of the American founding fathers. I just read "Machiavelli, Violence, and History" which is a short essay -

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~hrp/issues/1992/Minter.pdf

Machiavelli is widely misunderstood because his most striking quotes - like, "Better to be feared than loved" - are taken out of context. The essay I just linked you to talks about violence in pursuit of the common good, things like that which can be a bit of a head-trip.